Governance Structures
Q29: To what extent do you agree/disagree that Government should transfer responsibility for fire and rescue services in England to a single elected individual?
Strongly agree / Agree / Neither agree nor disagree / Disagree/ Strongly disagree
Q30: What factors should be considered when transferring fire governance to a directly elected individual?
Please provide the reasons for your response.
The LGA continues to believe it should be for local areas to decide on how they should be governed, and there should be no forced transfers of governance. We welcome that no mandatory transfers of governance have been proposed.
As with levelling up, real change and improvement within the sector and communities will be more successful if local councils and fire and rescue services are empowered to decide what their local governance structure will be, based on the needs of their communities. Therefore, transfers of governance should only take place where there has been local agreement to and support for the transfer.
In discussions with the local area, local support for any change of governance should be the principal basis for making any determination on the future of the service, therefore empowering local decision makers.
This will not only help to ensure that local areas can determine what works best for them and their communities but will make the process less open to challenge if services can be sure that local support has been given primary weighting in any assessment process.
The LGA believes that a panel of experts should make an assessment of the business case for any contested transfers of governance. The panel should include expertise in fire, policing, local government and finance to look at the different elements of the business case. If independently and expertly assessed the current tests of economy, efficiency, effectiveness, and public safety could provide criteria for the transfer of governance where there is local opposition. It is clear from the inspection process that there are a wide variety of service performances, regardless of governance type.
We believe the model of executive leadership set out in the White Paper can be achieved in a number of ways, including within existing structures. Set out below are three alternative options that we believe can achieve the White Paper’s objectives, though local areas should also be allowed to formulate their own proposals. Consideration should be given to how these alternatives could be delivered. Our current understanding for example is that option 3 could be introduced without the need for primary legislation, though it would be needed in the case of options 1 and 2:
• Greater delegation of decisions to the chair of the FRA.
• Create a cabinet/scrutiny model for governance on both metropolitan authorities and combined authorities.
• Metropolitan and combined authorities reorganise themselves to create a small management committee to exercise an authority’s executive functions, which would then be scrutinised and supported by/accountable to the full authority.
These are illustrative models and other ones may be more appropriate depending on local circumstances and needs.
If the Government does undertake a review of the Fire Framework with the intention of strengthening and clarifying the legal basis for fire and rescue authorities the LGA would wish to be included in any discussions.
In terms of scrutiny, if Police and Crime Panels (PCPs) are intended to take on the role of scrutinising fire as well as police, they need to be given appropriate resources and powers to do so. PCPs have consistently expressed concerns around the tools available to them regarding complaints handling, limitations of the powers of veto or the ability to undertake pre-scrutiny of major decisions. We are aware that there are variations on how much funding is claimed by PCPs, however to include a new policy area under their purview will require further time, training and resources to ensure they can fulfil any new burdens appropriately. A preferred alternative might be to allow individual areas to create their own fire panel, separate from the PCP, however, this would require adequate funding from Government.
The Mayoral Model
Q31: Where Mayoral Combined Authorities already exist, to what extent do you agree/disagree that fire and rescue functions should be transferred directly to these MCAs for exercise by the Mayor?
Strongly agree / Agree / Neither agree nor disagree / Disagree/ Strongly disagree
Police and Crime Commissioners
Q32: To what extent do you agree/disagree that Government should transfer responsibility for fire and rescue services in England to police and crime commissioners?
Strongly agree / Agree / Neither agree nor disagree / Disagree/ Strongly disagree
Other Options, such as an executive councillor
Q33: Apart from combined authority mayors and police and crime commissioners, is there anyone else who we could transfer fire governance that aligns with the principles set out above?
Yes No
Q34: If yes, please explain other options and your reasons for proposing them.
We believe the model of executive leadership set out in the White Paper can be achieved in a number of ways, including within existing structures. Set out below are three alternative options that we believe can achieve the White Paper’s objectives, though local areas should also be allowed to formulate their own proposals. Consideration should be given to how these alternatives could be delivered. Our current understanding for example is that option 3 could be introduced without the need for primary legislation, though it would be needed in the case of options 1 and 2:
• Greater delegation of decisions to the chair of the FRA.
• Create a cabinet/scrutiny model for governance on both metropolitan authorities and combined authorities.
• Metropolitan and combined authorities reorganise themselves to create a small management committee to exercise an authority’s executive functions, which would then be scrutinised and supported by/accountable to the full authority.
These are illustrative models and other ones may be more appropriate depending on local circumstances and needs.
If the Government does undertake a review of the Fire Framework with the intention of strengthening and clarifying the legal basis for fire and rescue authorities the LGA would wish to be included in any discussions.
In terms of scrutiny, if Police and Crime Panels (PCPs) are intended to take on the role of scrutinising fire as well as police, they need to be given appropriate resources and powers to do so. PCPs have consistently expressed concerns around the tools available to them regarding complaints handling, limitations of the powers of veto or the ability to undertake pre-scrutiny of major decisions. We are aware that there are variations on how much funding is claimed by PCPs, however to include a new policy area under their purview will require further time, training and resources to ensure they can fulfil any new burdens appropriately. A preferred alternative might be to allow individual areas to create their own fire panel, separate from the PCP, however. this would require adequate funding from Government.
Q35: To what extent do you agree or disagree that the legal basis for fire and rescue authorities could be strengthened and clarified?
Strongly agree / Agree / Neither agree nor disagree / Disagree/ Strongly disagree
Q36: Please provide the reasons for your response
If the Government does undertake a review of the Fire Framework with the intention of strengthening and clarifying the legal basis for fire and rescue authorities the LGA would wish to be included in any discussions.
Boundaries
Q37: To what extent do you agree/disagree that boundary changes should be made so that fire and rescue service areas and police force/combined authorities (where present) areas are coterminous?
Strongly agree / Agree / Neither agree nor disagree / Disagree/ Strongly disagree
Fire Funding
Q38: To what extent do you agree/disagree with ring-fencing the operational fire budget within fire and rescue services run by county councils and unitary authorities?
Strongly agree Agree Neither agree nor disagree Disagree Strongly disagree
Q39: Please provide the reasons for your response.
Ring fenced budgets could potentially cause difficulties for counties. It should be for local services to determine if ring fencing would be appropriate in their area, or if there are other considerations that would make ring fencing unsuitable. Integration, access to wider council funding, including capital funding and reserves, and joint working across a county council can have positive benefits to the public and this should be weighed when looking at any changes that would potentially restrict flexible working. Equally this may lead to funding being ring fenced to a particular level, that is not appropriate into the longer term. Careful consideration is needed to ensure that there are no unintended outcomes from ring fencing.
A Balanced Leadership Model
Q40. To what extent do you agree with this proposed approach (as outlined in the table above)?
Strongly agree Agree Neither agree nor disagree Disagree Strongly disagree
Q41. Do you have any other comments to further support your answer? / Q42. Are there any factors we should consider when implementing these proposals? / Q43: What factors should we consider when giving chief fire officers operational independence?
Please provide the reasons for your opinions.
We agree there should be a clear separation between the role of the chief fire officer and the authority and believe that this can be achieved quickly through appropriate schemes of delegation and constitutional arrangements. This is already the case across many fire and rescue services, with local circumstances playing a role in how those schemes work in individual services.
Both the operational and political leadership of the sector have distinct and complementary roles to play. Both will bring their own expertise and experiences into discussions on the service, which will ensure that better outcomes are achieved. Ensuring that chief fire officers have the ability to make operational decisions is important, as is maintaining political oversight and accountability. We are pleased that the White Paper recognises the importance of this relationship with chief fire officers being “properly held to account for performance by strong governance”.
We would welcome the opportunity to input further into this as the government seeks to define the balanced leadership model.
There should be a clear understanding between each of what their respective roles are, however, it should be for local areas to determine how best to resolve issues and work effectively at a local level, based on clear principles of good governance, such as those outlined in our document “Leading the fire sector”.
There should be a mature level of discussion and challenge to ensure that services are delivering for their communities. Mutual trust and honest communication should characterise the relationship between chief fire officers and their governance structures. As democratic representatives of their community FRAs have a duty to ensure that that voice is properly represented in decisions affecting the running of the service, whilst also having due regard for the professional expertise of their chief fire officer.
By working together with clear processes for resolving issues, and discussions over issues such as closing fire stations, staff, crewing levels, etc and their impact on budgets and the estate, this should lead to the right decisions being made at a local level. This is especially important as FRAs are the employer, not the chief fire officer, as well as holding responsibility for the estate and the budget.
There will be times when there will be both strategic and operational elements to a decision. Crewing is a particular example where there are both strategic and operational issues that should be considered – for instance a change to crewing could mean that a station changes from 24-hour crewing to day crewing plus or retained. The impact on the local community must therefore be a fully considered and appropriately represented in any decision making alongside the operational elements of any change.
We look forward to contributing to further discussions on the proposed balanced leadership model, and ensuring that there is an appropriate delineation between the strategic and operational leadership. The current list does not reflect the complexities of decision making, for instance governance involvement in the appointment of senior management beyond just the Chief Fire Officer would be appropriate, as they would be a key part of the team delivering on the strategic priorities of the governance.
Legal Entity of Chief Fire Officers
Q44: What factors should we consider should we make chief fire officers corporations sole?
We do not believe that chief fire officers need to be made corporations sole, as operational independence can be achieved more easily and quickly through other means, without the need for further legislation. We acknowledge that there will be some areas where it may be locally determined to be the best model, in London for instance.
For county fire and rescue services corporation sole would cause very significant difficulties in their operation. Many county chief fire officers sit within a wider management team structure within a county council, rather than at chief executive level, and may not sit on the strategic management team. If chief fire officers were made corporation sole in county fire and rescue services, that may pose challenges over the employment of staff, the ownership and disposal of the estate, difficulties may also be created for back office functions such as IT, HR and legal advice which are a part of the county council and how these would be paid for. If these issues are to be resolved new legislation would be needed to regulate and resolve these issues in advance of any introduction of corporation sole.
Clear Distinction Between Strategic and Operational Planning
Q45: To what extent do you agree or disagree that the responsibility for strategic and operational planning should be better distinguished?
Strongly agree Agree Neither agree nor disagree Disagree Strongly disagree
Q46: To what extent do you agree or disagree that the strategic plan should be the responsibility of the fire and rescue authority?
Strongly agree Agree Neither agree nor disagree Disagree Strongly disagree
Q47: To what extent do you agree or disagree that the operational plan should be the responsibility of the chief fire officer?
Strongly agree Agree Neither agree nor disagree Disagree Strongly disagree
Q48: Please provide the reasons for your response.
We wish to ensure that there is a clear line of accountability in any proposed changes. The chief fire officer will need to provide assurance that they are meeting the strategic objectives as set out within any strategic plan, or the CRMP/IRMP if this stays the same. We know that this separation is in place in Mayoral areas and PFCC areas.